‘Church Times’ on ‘Same-Sex Marriage v. Murder in Africa’

We face attacks if C of E marriage policy changes’

Madeleine Davies

by Madeleine Davies – ‘Church Times’ – Posted: 11 Apr 2014 @ 12:14

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BISHOPS in South Sudan have confirmed the Archbishop of Canterbury’s warning that Christians in their country face a violent reaction if the Church of England permits same-sex marriage and blessings.

Archbishop Welby gave his warning during a phone-in on LBC radio last Friday. Asked why the Church of England could not permit clergy to bless same-sex relationships, he said: “The impact of that on Christians in countries far from here, like South Sudan, like Nigeria, and other places, would be absolutely catastrophic.”

He spoke of a visit to South Sudan in January: “The church leaders there were saying, please don’t change what you’re doing because then we couldn’t accept your help, and we need your help desperately.”

The LBC presenter, James O’Brien, suggested that gay Christians might interpret the Archbishop’s words as a ban on marrying “because of the conniptions it would give to some, dare we say, less enlightened people in Africa”.

“I don’t think we dare say ‘less enlightened’, actually,” replied the Archbishop. “That’s nothing to do with it. It’s about the fact that I’ve stood by a graveside in Africa of a group of Christians who’d been attacked because of something that had happened far, far away in America.”

Returning to the subject later, he said: “What was said was that ‘If we leave a Christian community in this area’ – I am quoting them – ‘we will all be made to become homosexual; so we are going to kill the Christians.’ The mass grave had 369 bodies in it, and I was standing with the relatives. That burns itself into your soul – as does the suffering of gay people in this country.”

On Tuesday, the Bishop of Maridi, the Rt Revd Justin Badi Arama, verified this report. “Gay relationships in the Church of England would mean the people of South Sudan going back to their traditional religions which do not take them to same-sex practice,” said. “Secondly, there would be continued violence against Christians [in the fear] that they would bring bad and shameful behaviour or homosexual practice, and spread it in the communities.”

Any change would lead to a rift, the Bishop of Wau, the Rt Revd Moses Deng Bol, warned on Wednesday. “The Church of England blessing gay marriages will be dangerous for the Church in South Sudan, because people here, like many African countries, strongly oppose gay marriages. And so they would want the Church here to break relationship with the Church of England.

“As a Church, we need to remain united as a body of Christ. We must be mindful of our brothers and sisters in other parts of the world when taking decisions, because what affects one part of the body affects the whole body as well.”

Bishop Arama concurred: “As South Sudanese, we very much value the partnership, and all the efforts of the Church of England to support the Church in Sudan during all the difficult moments in our history. Same-sex practice would distort this long history, because light and darkness cannot stay together. It is our prayer that the Church of England should not follow the world into darkness, but lead the world into light.”

On Thursday, the Bishop of Cueibet, the Rt Revd Elijah Matueny Awet, said that, if the Church of England blessed gay relationships, Christians in South Sudan would “go back and worship their traditional beliefs and Gods [rather] than worshipping the true God. . . Islam will grow rapidly in South Sudan because of the pagan believing on same-sex marriage.”

He argued, however, that it would not lead to reprisals in South Sudan, which would take a different path to that pursued in the West.

“We have been described by English people and American that we are a rude community . . . The question now, is who is rude now? Is it the one who is claiming his or her right? The one who is forcing people to accept his behavior?”

Clergy elsewhere have been critical of Archbishop Welby’s comments. On the same day as the broadcast, the Bishop of California, the Rt Revd Marc Andrus, described them as simplistic.

“His proposed way forward – to continue to oppress LGBT people in the UK – will fail to keep Africans safe for this reason: if Africa is watching the UK as closely as the Archbishop would have us all believe, then they will not miss that the spiritual head of the Anglican Communion is on the side of continued second-class citizenship for LGBT people.”

In the UK, the Vicar of St Mary with All Souls’, Kilburn, and St James’s, West Hampstead, the Revd Andrew Cain, said that the Archbishop had “allowed himself to be subject to moral blackmail of the worst sort”. Mr Cain plans to marry his same-sex partner later this year.

“The solution is perhaps not sacrificing the mission imperatives of our country to the frankly bullying tactics of some African prelates, but to recognise that it is perhaps time that the position of primus inter pares of the Archbishop of Canterbury in the Anglican Communion is no longer tenable, and to give it up to a rotating leadership. That would . . . set the Church here free to be the Church of England, and not caught in some awkward mid-point between African and European cultural and religious traditions and developments.”

On Monday, Davis Mac-iyalla, a gay Nigerian Anglican who has sought asylum in the UK after receiving death threats, said that clashes in Nigeria had “no link with homosexuality at all. . . I was very shocked when the Archbishop tried to make that statement that rights given in the UK will affect Christians in Africa, and I think he is wrong in that statement or mistaken.”

He suggested that it was conservative Christians in Nigeria who “try to portray the picture that it will have consequences, but it will not”.

During the phone-in, the Archbishop reiterated a traditional position on same-sex relationships: “My position is the historic position of the Church, which is in our canons, which says that sexual relations should be within marriage, and marriage is between a man and a woman.”

Asked whether he could imagine a day when two people of the same sex married in the Church of England, he said: “I look at the scriptures, I look at the teaching of the Church, I listen to Christians round the world, and I have real hestitations about that.

“I am incredibly uncomfortable about saying that. I really don’t want to say no to people who love each other, but you have to have a sense of following what the teaching of the Church is. We can’t just make sudden changes.”

On Wednesday, in an interview with the Anglican Journal during his visit to Canada, the Archbishop said: “One of the things that’s most depressing about the response to that [LBC] interview is that almost nobody listened to what I said. . .

“What I was saying is that when we take actions in one part of the Church, particularly actions that are controversial, that they are heard and felt not only in that part of the Church but around the world . . . And, this is not mere consequentialism. I’m not saying that because there will be consequences to taking action, that we shouldn’t take action. What I’m saying is that love for our neighbour, love for one another, compels us to consider carefully how that love is expressed, both in our own context and globally. We never speak the essential point that, as a Church, we never speak only in our local situation. Our voice carries around the world.”

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Wading through this ‘Church Times’ report about the ABC’s connection between any prospect of the Church of England’s acceptance of Same-Sex Marriage in England and Wales and the possibility of the murder of Christians in Africa; I came upon this item from a statement made by one of the South Sudanese Anglican Bishops – 

‘Bishop Arama concurred: “As South Sudanese, we very much value the partnership, and all the efforts of the Church of England to support the Church in Sudan during all the difficult moments in our history. Same-sex practice would distort this long history, because light and darkness cannot stay together. It is our prayer that the Church of England should not follow the world into darkness, but lead the world into light.” ‘

One can understand the cultural difficulty for African people’s acceptance of same-sex relationships – as being, for them, ‘counter-cultural’. However, for Bishop Arama to compare same-sex ‘practice’ with ‘darkness’ as seemingly opposed to heterosexual practice as ‘light’, is to ignore the modern understanding of homosexuality as a given for a minority of human beings and, therefore, worthy of expression for those who have no other way of being. Homosexuals are not necessarily called to celibacy just because they are homosexual. Nor is homosexuality considered to be a ‘sickness’ in the modern world.

Africans have their own cultural attitudes, but they need to learn that we in the Western Churches of the Anglican Communion no longer denigrate people who happen to be gifted with a different sexual-orientation from the binary ‘norm’. Such people have a right to express their human love in ways that are consonant with monogamous faithfulness to one partner – as is also expected with heterosexual relationships. The big problem for the Church and Society is when monogamous relationships are spurned, in favour of licentiousness – whether for heterosexual or same-sex couples. If monogamous relationships are generally accepted as serving ‘A Common Good’, then this should be everyone’s right.

Also, on this subject; local communities must be allowed to conduct their polity on locally agreed parameters. The law of the land – as long as it is based on a respect for the rights of the individual to flourish in that community, with regard for the common good – must determine how the Church is to operate in that place. International courts have the capability of determining whether, or not, the individual human rights afforded to the citizens of those countries that sign up to a common polity meet the standards set down by the courts as being for the common good.

Because the law in certain African countries mitigates against the human rights of LGBTI people; this does not mean that we in other countries – whose governments have now outlawed discrimination against LGBTIs – have to live by the oppressive polity of such African regimes.  In England and Wales (the catchment area of the Churches of England and Wales) discrimination on the grounds of one’s sexual-orientation has now, effectively, been outlawed. It seems to be taking the Church a long time to catch up to the reality; but, on both gender and sexuality issues, the turning tide is inexorable. 

It is of course realised that some countries around the world have yet to sign up to the Charter for Human Rights. It should be part of the pastoral ministry of the Churches of the Anglican Communion to ensure that bigotry and  hatred against  (and, in some places, the murder of)  the LGBTI community, is not  countenanced as part of the way of life for member Churches. Such activity is in itself part and parcel of the darkness of this world, which needs to be exposed for what its really is and brought into the light of day.

Father Ron Smith, Christchurch, New Zealand


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Retired Anglican priest, living in Christchurch, New Zealand. Ardent supporter of LGBT Community, and blogger on 'Thinking Anglicans UK' site. Theology: liberal, Anglo-Catholic & traditional. regarding each person as a unique expression of Christ, and therefore lovable.
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One Response to ‘Church Times’ on ‘Same-Sex Marriage v. Murder in Africa’

  1. murraysmallbone says:

    We always knew what we were getting when Justin Welby was elected as ABC.
    No matter how many times you turn the “rubic cube”;Justin Welby will continue to mangle words around his innate homophobia.
    Life will continue, but how?
    Homophobia inter alia other human injustices will continue in all spheres of life,but as Anglicans sadly in certain parts of the Anglican Communion.Further, sadly not addressed in a positive and altering manner by Justin welby, when it could be in his power to do so.Recent signs of reconciliation between The Republic of Ireland and the U.K. were not achieved without the gracious attitude of H.M. Elizabeth 2. So it is possible for leaders to lead in a positive way,and not let the shadows of the past hinder human progress.
    As for the C.of E. it will increasingly be seen as isolating itself from people’s lives.Priests will marry according to the new civil law on SSM,as also will lay members of the Church.Blessings of Same Sex marriages will occur, and there is not a thing Justin Welby and his cohort of acolytes can do, except of course to mangle out the same tired cliches of misery making bilge.
    As to recent comments of “living in Darkness”; LGBT people will continue to live in such so long as others put them there;Our Lord I thought was the Judge.
    It is a great shame that the Same Sex marriage Act put locks on the C.of E. performing SSM,but challenges will occur.The road to freedom is long!!.
    Meanwhile the military build up on Croatia’s borders continue;so if Justin Welby is warning of murder and violence ,he does not have to look beyond Europe.This year of 2014 is shaping up as re-run of history past.Perhaps a call to prayer for the people of Croatia would be a better call for His Grace Justin Welby rather than miserable scare-mongering about African Churches.Local polities will go the way want to go, and any reconfigurations by the Church or State in the U.K. will not prevent such.
    The U.K. parliament has led the way on Same Sex Marriage;Quo Vadis Your Grace?

    Jesu mercy!.. Mary pray!

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