CHURCH TIMES – on ‘Wisdom from the Scots’

Wisdom from the Scots

The Church of Scotland debate on same-sex relationships has much to teach the C of E, sayAndrew Goddard and Giles Goddard


SIX months ago, in his presidential address to the General Synod, the Archbishop of Canterburydescribed the “need for some thoughtful en­gagement that will help us under­stand how people who read the same Bible and share the same baptism can come to strongly diverse conclusions”. He was talking about same-sex unions.In six months’ time, the Church of England will mark the 20th anni­versary of Issues in Human Sexuality, in which the then House of Bishops established the Church of England’s current position.

The Anglican Communion is not, of course, the only denomination in which this subject is bitterly divisive. Next week, the General Assembly of the Church of Scotland will debate the subject. There are lessons to be learned from the way it has pro­ceeded.

After a divisive debate two years ago about the induction of a minis­ter who was in a same-sex relation­ship (News, 29 May 2009), the General Assembly, “for the sake of the peace and unity of the Church”, appointed a commission, represent­ing a breadth of opinion, to consult and prepare a study.

Its report is illuminating. Al­though its nine members mention “many discussions in which we have not reached unanimity of view”, they note that this “has not prevented us from working together closely and with mutual confidence”.

The large-scale consultation that they undertook, throughout the Church of Scotland and beyond, was probably unprece­dented. About three-quarters of the nearly 25,000 people involved had a clear position on same-sex relation­ships. When elders of the Kirk were asked whether a person in a civil part­nership should be permitted to be an ordained minister, 46.2 per cent said yes; 47 per cent said no.

The perception of the importance of this issue is also revealing. Ten per cent of the elders questioned said that they would regard a decision to ordain people in a committed same-sex relationship as “hereti­cal”, and 28 per cent said that it was unjustified by scripture. On the other hand, refusing to ordain was seen as heretical by four per cent, and unjustified by scripture by 24 per cent.

When asked whether certain situations would make them “consider it obligatory to leave the Church of Scotland”, 19 per cent of elders said that this would be the case, “if the General Assembly were to allow people in committed same-sex relationships to be or­dained as ministers”; eight per cent would con­sider leaving if the General Assembly forbade such ordinations.

Nor is sitting on the fence com­fortable: 12 per cent of elders said that they would leave if “the General Assembly were to decide not to make a clear statement on this issue”.

WE SUSPECT that similar findings would result if the Church of Eng­land were brave enough to undertake a similar consultation. That is, of course, one reason why it has shied away from an orderly, constructive, nationally led conversation. The ques­tions now are whether such an avoidance strategy remains wise, and, if not, how best to discern the mind of Christ.

In addition to its survey, the Church of Scotland commission con­sulted with other Churches. It also explored the science, something often ignored (although it was thoroughly explored in the sadly under-used guide The Anglican Com­munion and Homosexuality, edited by Philip Groves, SPCK, 2007).

The Kirk’s commission concludes that the Church should not deter­mine the ordination issue “unless and until it has reached a view on the status of such relationships and the appropriateness or otherwise of allowing a minister to recognise and celeb­rate a life-long committed same-sex relationship in a form of a bless­ing or other liturgy”. This is because the matter “is essentially a theo­logical dispute about whether same-sex activity in a committed relation­ship is contrary to the will of God”.

Despite its differences, the com­mis­sion reports that, “through dis­cus­sion and patience, there was a great deal on which we agreed.” It is unanimous that “it is contrary to God’s will that Christians should be hostile in any way to a person be­cause he or she is homosexual by orientation and in his or her prac­tice,” and also that traditional teach­ing should not be classed as homo­phobic.

The commission calls for pre­serving the current moratorium on ordaining those in same-sex rela­tionships, but it wishes to establish a theological commission to enable “a sustained theological addressing of the matters before the Church”. It also asks the General Assembly to signal the trajectory it wishes the Church to take. Should it consider an indefinite moratorium, or lift the ban, and ask for a theological report, which could include advice on a form of service for blessing same-sex relationships?

AS TWO people who hold opposing views on this question, and want the Church of England to follow differ­ent trajectories, we believe that we can learn from our Presbyterian brothers and sisters. We need to move beyond the current stand-off, and engage in substantive conversa­tions, not just talks about talks.

As the Archbishop of Canterbury said, part of the problem is that the subject “has become a cardinal example of how we avoid theological debate”. We urgently need an “op­portunity of clarifying” how differ­ent perspectives “see the focal theo­logical issues”.

Some formal structure therefore needs to be established to enable “robust but respectful debate” in the context of deepening relationships. As in Scotland, this is unlikely to resolve disagreements, but it may en­able greater respect between op­ponents, and help us to move beyond the current options of either staying silent (as most bishops have) or joining a political campaign on one side or the other.

We believe that the Church of Scotland report helps to identify vital areas that we need to explore. It also high­lights the urgency of addressing our divisions over them. We need to find new and better ways of doing this, if, as we hope and pray, we are to find a faithful way forward together.

The Revd Dr Andrew Goddard is a member of the leadership of Fulcrum, the centre-Evangelical network; Canon Giles Goddard chairs Inclusive Church. They are not related.

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Retired Anglican priest, living in Christchurch, New Zealand. Ardent supporter of LGBT Community, and blogger on 'Thinking Anglicans UK' site. Theology: liberal, Anglo-Catholic & traditional. regarding each person as a unique expression of Christ, and therefore lovable.
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1 Response to CHURCH TIMES – on ‘Wisdom from the Scots’

  1. kiwianglo says:

    In continuing the discussion on the Scottish Presbyterian willingness to open up the debate on gender and sexuality in the Church; I have decided to post this article from last week’s Church Times (now available on the internet) wherein two Anglicans by the surname ‘Goddard’ – Giles: of ‘Inclusive Church’, and Andrew: of ‘Fulcrum’ – have expressed their agreement on the usefulness of the Scottish Presbyterian openness to debate on these issues. Despite their fundamental disagreement on whether Gays ought to be acceptable by the Church as clergy; they both suggest the Church of England would perhaps do well to follow the Scottish Presbyterian Church’s initiative – by opening up the opportunity for wider dialogue on these important issues.

    The Presbyterians in the U.S. have already opened up the ordained ministry to the LGBT community, while the Scottish branch of the Church has moved a step forward from its initial reluctance to follow suit. Here is the latest insight into the change:

    “Despite its differences, the (S.P.C.) com­mis­sion reports that, “through dis­cus­sion and patience, there was a great deal on which we agreed.” It is unanimous that “it is contrary to God’s will that Christians should be hostile in any way to a person be­cause he or she is homosexual by orientation and in his or her prac­tice”

    This determination has obviously opened up the prospect for ongoing dialogue on the subject of whether, or not, the Scottish Presbyterian Church should continue in its current general practice of prohibiting the ordination of Gays to the Ministry.

    This new initiative, both Andrew and Giles Goddard suggest, ought to encourage the Episcopal Church of Scotland and the Church of England to re-assess their official opposition to Gay Ordination – by open discussions amongst the rank and file of their respective Church bodies on the practical and theological issues involved.

    Such openness to a fuller debate within the Church would provide a better prospect of achieving enlightenment – via the inspiration of the Holy Spirit on the will of God for the Church on such matters – than has been evidenced in such gatherings as that of the recent meeting to decide on the election of the Bishop of Southwark. The action of the two Provincial Archbishops of the C.of E. on that occasion are now publicly revealed to have been blatantly hierarchical – in their decision to disenfranchise two of the local diocesan candidates from prospective election to become bishop, on the grounds that one was in a same-sex Civil Partnership and the other married to a divorcee. (The fact that the second of these, Fr. Nick Holtam, was later elected bishop in another diocese should not detract from the fact of his withdrawal from selection for Southwark).

    Until the Church of England – and other provincial Churches of the worldwide Anglican Communion – are open to the public discussion of gender and sexuality issues which affect the ordination qualification process, there can be no effective progress made on the official status of relationships between the Churches of the Communion on this important matter of social justice towards Women and the LGBT community.

    Father Ron Smith, Christchurch

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